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Post by Justin on Jun 15, 2012 15:35:28 GMT -7
1 Corinthians talks about how not many wise after the flesh and not many mighty or noble are called. How do we reconcile this with Calvinistic teachings that contradict other areas of scripture? This would almost seem to reenforce Calvinism. According to Ephesians, those who are predestined are those who first trusted Christ - could this go right in line with our 'poor' discussion in James? Perhaps those who are not wise or mighty see their need for Christ and thus are chosen to be His sons?
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Post by T on Jun 16, 2012 9:52:40 GMT -7
Oh no....the great paradox of all time....God and His complete sovereignty....man and his free will. Do we want to attempt this discussion? Because I think it will remain just as much as a mystery as the trinity, God being omnipotent, omniscient and never having a beginning or an end. I don't know how all this works, but I believe God and His Word. He has given me no reason to doubt Him. The world without God's Word, have given me much to doubt. But be that as it may, I once heard a pastor say, "If you believe, then you have been called by God. If you do not believe, then call out to God to help you believe. If you call out to Him, then He has called you, if you still don't want to, then my friend...wait for His call, and when He does...please pick up the phone and receive the call!
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Post by Justin on Jun 17, 2012 13:40:47 GMT -7
No, not that debate. Calvanism is easily discounted by scripture (ie those who are predestined are those who already trusted CHRIST). As its been presented to me: what is predestined is our "benefit package" after being saved. My question is more how we reconcile the verse I mentioned in light of that? Perhaps we need to start with the biblical teaching on predestination first - we'll leave that to Ryan @_@
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